Thursday, 27 April 2017

Argument: Consciousness as an abstract concept


Everything in our Universe (in principle) is explainable from the standard model of particles. The key to understand anything is to first understand the laws of nature.

So, If I were to move each of your body's atom one by one from one place to another but keep their arrangement same, would the new set be you? The answer is yes. But where was consciousness? I just placed all your atoms from one location to another. At what point was I  transferring consciousness? My answer: Conscious isn't a 'thing'. Its an abstraction that emerged from that arrangement of atoms.

What are you made up of? Cells. What are cells made of? Atoms.

When a bunch of conscious microbes get together to form a 'being'. They form a new level of consciousness. That being is a human.

But what if bunch of humans get together? They form a society. This society is made up of conscious beings we call humans. So I ask: Is the society conscious? Its completely consistent to consider a society as a being. Just like humans interact with each other, societies can interact with each other. They have different mechanisms to do what they do.

We keep listening, "USA did this" "China did this" "India did this" "Google did this". How could a nation (say usa) do something if its not conscious? You may argue its not the nation thats conscious, its it's constituents: Humans. Humans are conscious therefore it makes an illusion that nations are conscious. But what if I go even deeper and say "Humans seems conscious because their constituents are conscious. Well what are they? Microbes. Cells. They make us conscious".

Our brains are nothing more than a bunch of neurons. These neurons interact with each other. They have their mechanisms. We have ours.

The answer is all those levels are conscious. You are conscious because your constituents are conscious. Your consciousness is definitely more complex than a lower level consciousness. You can do more than bacteria. A society can do more than you.

A level 0 consciousness are the laws of nature.


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Tags: philosophy, meta physics, consciousness, abstract concept, reality

14 comments:

  1. On one hand u say that the nation, as a piece of land and soil is not conscious and its components like humans make it conscious.

    On the other hand you say we all are conscious because our smallest building block(atom) is conscious.

    So aint the land, the soil, and other entities also made up of atoms?

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    1. Thanks for commenting.

      The nation is conscious. I said that because people may argue that it seems so but its actually not conscious. And soil is also conscious but its conscious is very different than ours. But in principle, they are.

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  2. Nah, soil is not conscious!! Is that a joke ;). By reading this i have forfetten the whole psychology and political science, what you have said brother is your own perspective without any theoritical backing, so your WHOLE THEORY IS ABSTRACT

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    1. Its not theorizing. Its arguing on already proven facts.

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    2. What facts , about nation which u said which political thinker had said that??? About consciousness the biggest psycholgist is SIGMUND FREUD go through his studies

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    3. There is no politics involved in my argument. Calling a bunch of people a nation doesn't invoke politics.

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    4. Loolll!! This is what happens when u dont know about the political science, its not that politics which u are assuming. Ha ha

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    5. What ever politics does has to do with the mechanism people follow to ensure the nation exists. What ever the mechanism may be, until the nation exists. Its irrelevant.

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  3. Brother to understand the mechaniam you should know about state and its features, and i must say your theory is kind of abstractness itself no body and soul.

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    1. THE MECHANISM DOESN'T MATTER.

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    2. In order to understand anything in this comtext u have to understand the features of state.

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    3. And don't tell me to study other people's works first. You explain it.

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    4. Brother that could be questionable so i am telling you to study the proven studies.Then there will be no one to question your theories.
      IF YOUR THEORIES ARE NOT BACKED BY PERVIOUS STUDIES THEN THEY LOOSE THERE IMPORTANCE.I want you to study them because i like your nature of queationing the traditionally accepted facts and believes, caary on with your good work.

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